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Continuing the march of the nanny state in which people are not held responsible for their actions:

 

http://www.bankingmyway.com/real-estate/foreclosures/states-banks-foreclose-your-own-risk?cm_ven=bmwunited

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11-07-2009 08:20 AM
 

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States are growing increasingly frustrated with banks foreclosing on homes; so much so that some states are threatening banks with legal action if they don’t mend their foreclosing ways.

Huh? That doesn't even make sense. If people don't want to pay their mortgage, they're just supposed to get a free house? Why is this being called the "foreclosure" problem? It should be called what it is, the "people not paying their mortgage" problem.

 

As for this "predatory lending" thing, if fraud was committed, then the people responsible should be charged with fraud. Period. If the government wants to outlaw negative-amortization loans, then do it. But you can't let it happen and then go back and retroactively punish the taxpayers for it. These people made stupid decisions, and they want everyone else to suffer for it. That's absurd.

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11-07-2009 11:45 AM
 

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1776 wrote:

Continuing the march of the nanny state in which people are not held responsible for their actions:

 

http://www.bankingmyway.com/real-estate/foreclosures/states-banks-foreclose-your-own-risk?cm_ven=bmwunited


The subprime numbers are miniscule compared to the collapse of the securitized loans numbers. That's what brought down the house of cards. The subprime problem could have been cleaned up easily. It's not nannying the people that's the problem. It's the relationship of the Treasury with Wall Street, banks with government, and globalization.

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11-07-2009 03:40 PM
 

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stop_bailouts wrote:

States are growing increasingly frustrated with banks foreclosing on homes; so much so that some states are threatening banks with legal action if they don’t mend their foreclosing ways.

Huh? That doesn't even make sense. If people don't want to pay their mortgage, they're just supposed to get a free house? Why is this being called the "foreclosure" problem? It should be called what it is, the "people not paying their mortgage" problem.

 

As for this "predatory lending" thing, if fraud was committed, then the people responsible should be charged with fraud. Period. If the government wants to outlaw negative-amortization loans, then do it. But you can't let it happen and then go back and retroactively punish the taxpayers for it. These people made stupid decisions, and they want everyone else to suffer for it. That's absurd.


Fraud was, and still is (see tax credit) endemic, and yet the US is asking Afghanistan to clean up it's act. The FBI established this a long time ago, and yet were denied the resources to investigate.

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11-07-2009 03:43 PM
 

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1776 wrote:

Continuing the march of the nanny state in which people are not held responsible for their actions:

 

http://www.bankingmyway.com/real-estate/foreclosures/states-banks-foreclose-your-own-risk?cm_ven=bmwunited


actually the article is about states attorney generals going after lending institutions who engaged in predatory lending - it has nothing to do with borrowers.
"for state attorney generals to take legal action against mortgage lenders who issued exotic mortgages that were structured so it would be almost impossible to repay them, especially in a tough recession that’s crushed beleaguered homeowners."
and their MAIN objective is to force banks to MODIFY loans (instead of foreclosure).
 

 

Kudos!
11-07-2009 04:06 PM
 

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Jazzman wrote:

Fraud was, and still is (see tax credit) endemic, and yet the US is asking Afghanistan to clean up it's act. The FBI established this a long time ago, and yet were denied the resources to investigate.

Then fix that problem. Don't make innocent taxpayers pay for it. If a murderer escapes justice, do you put everyone else in jail to make up for it?

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11-07-2009 04:41 PM
 

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If you look into the history of all bubbles recorded, government interference not necessarily solves any issues. Starting with the first ever bubble on book, government bought the Tulip contacts at 200 for the contracts sold at 400 at the peak. But the burst stopped at 4 the real value of the tulip bulbs. So there is a demand and supply rule which government cannot alter no matter how much money they put in. Please refer to all the bubble in the past in the interest and you will see government's interference actaully makes things worse.
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11-08-2009 07:53 PM
 

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refollower: no argument there, but I think the debate *is* more along the lines that they CAN draw it out for some time.  They've already proven that with the last 2 bubbles (starting in late 1990's as .com bubble took off until now).  They've never let that bubble wind down and therefore the question is how long can you wait? 
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11-08-2009 10:38 PM
 

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